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		<title>By: Wardropper Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.kahunaburger.com/2008/01/02/the-adobe-spying-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-42713</link>
		<dc:creator>Wardropper Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the reassurance, Tobias.
Much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the reassurance, Tobias.<br />
Much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias</title>
		<link>http://www.kahunaburger.com/2008/01/02/the-adobe-spying-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-42710</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Wardropper! I&#039;ve seen similar situations with my browser as well, especially when using something like AdBlock to block certain ad/tracking sites. 

There is absolutely no correlation between the installation of Photoshop/Dreamweaver and the weird browsing behavior. Those two applications or parts thereof are not being used (run) at all when you browse through Firefox. 

Cheers - Tobias</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Wardropper! I&#8217;ve seen similar situations with my browser as well, especially when using something like AdBlock to block certain ad/tracking sites. </p>
<p>There is absolutely no correlation between the installation of Photoshop/Dreamweaver and the weird browsing behavior. Those two applications or parts thereof are not being used (run) at all when you browse through Firefox. </p>
<p>Cheers &#8211; Tobias</p>
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		<title>By: Wardropper Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.kahunaburger.com/2008/01/02/the-adobe-spying-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-42709</link>
		<dc:creator>Wardropper Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting side issue to the Omniture issue is the appearance of the following in my Firefox status bar when I access the Washington Post online:

&quot;Read omniture.secure.miisolutions.net&quot;

Reading this url clearly slows down my access to this site, sometimes grinding to a complete stop until I reload the page.
I have a registered copy of Adobe Photoshop and Dreamweaver on my computer - could that somehow get involved in my newsreading habits???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting side issue to the Omniture issue is the appearance of the following in my Firefox status bar when I access the Washington Post online:</p>
<p>&#8220;Read omniture.secure.miisolutions.net&#8221;</p>
<p>Reading this url clearly slows down my access to this site, sometimes grinding to a complete stop until I reload the page.<br />
I have a registered copy of Adobe Photoshop and Dreamweaver on my computer &#8211; could that somehow get involved in my newsreading habits???</p>
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		<title>By: tobias</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klause - 

1) I have 6500 colleagues all over the world and I don&#039;t know what everybody of them is up to. 
2) We are split up into multiple divisions and while everybody knows what each division is roughly doing, we certainly don&#039;t know intricate details about each of them. 
3) My personal work is completely unrelated to the subject at hand. 
4) The news broke over the christmas/new years shutdown and people who knew about these areas had better things to do. 
5) I wanted to investigate the problem as everybody else outside of the company would see it. 

Hope that explains it - let me know if you have more questions. 

Tobias

PS: Next time leave a valid email address ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klause &#8211; </p>
<p>1) I have 6500 colleagues all over the world and I don&#8217;t know what everybody of them is up to.<br />
2) We are split up into multiple divisions and while everybody knows what each division is roughly doing, we certainly don&#8217;t know intricate details about each of them.<br />
3) My personal work is completely unrelated to the subject at hand.<br />
4) The news broke over the christmas/new years shutdown and people who knew about these areas had better things to do.<br />
5) I wanted to investigate the problem as everybody else outside of the company would see it. </p>
<p>Hope that explains it &#8211; let me know if you have more questions. </p>
<p>Tobias</p>
<p>PS: Next time leave a valid email address &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Klause Mosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klause Mosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are an engineer and Adobe and had to research it ?!?! Don&#039;t you know what you are putting into your own products?!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are an engineer and Adobe and had to research it ?!?! Don&#8217;t you know what you are putting into your own products?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: tobias</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the records: I had some email exchange with KAa and offered to assist him with his CS3 installation. We were scheduled to &quot;meet&quot; today (Sunday) to determine what&#039;s wrong with the installer. KAa tried it last night again and successfully installed CS3 then. No need to meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the records: I had some email exchange with KAa and offered to assist him with his CS3 installation. We were scheduled to &#8220;meet&#8221; today (Sunday) to determine what&#8217;s wrong with the installer. KAa tried it last night again and successfully installed CS3 then. No need to meet.</p>
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		<title>By: tobias</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KAa - if you have a DVD of CS3 that you can&#039;t install and Adobe&#039;s customer support can&#039;t help you, why are you holding on to it and not return it for a refund? I know I would send it back if I and tech-support would not be able to install. 

I&#039;d be happy to do a screen-sharing session with you to see if we together can manage to get it installed. Please send email to thoellri-at-adobe.com and let&#039;s setup a quick online meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KAa &#8211; if you have a DVD of CS3 that you can&#8217;t install and Adobe&#8217;s customer support can&#8217;t help you, why are you holding on to it and not return it for a refund? I know I would send it back if I and tech-support would not be able to install. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to do a screen-sharing session with you to see if we together can manage to get it installed. Please send email to thoellri-at-adobe.com and let&#8217;s setup a quick online meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: KAa</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not even been able to install CS3 ... and nobody at Adobe seems to know what the problem is. By the way, I&#039;ve learned that there are a lot of people holding CS3 DVDs they can&#039;t install. Adobe is wasting time (? skills/expertise) in collecting information, whilst some of us are left holding $200 useless DVDs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not even been able to install CS3 &#8230; and nobody at Adobe seems to know what the problem is. By the way, I&#8217;ve learned that there are a lot of people holding CS3 DVDs they can&#8217;t install. Adobe is wasting time (? skills/expertise) in collecting information, whilst some of us are left holding $200 useless DVDs</p>
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		<title>By: tobias</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James: I&#039;m with you, James. I&#039;m equally upset about the situation and I want to make sure that we do everything to regain your and others confidence that we do the Right Thing (tm). As mentioned earlier on, I hate to spied upon as much as everybody else. However, in this case I would not call it spying, but providing up-to-date information with negative side-effects. 

There are tons of applications out there which phone-home to check whether there&#039;s an update to the software you installed. I find this valuable at times and annoying if it is not done right. My Logitech software telling me &quot;There&#039;s an update&quot; without telling me what the update is about, falls into the annoying category. Some other software showing me the release notes for all the versions between my installed version and the current version and whether those updates are security-related or not, falls into the valuable category. 

I think there&#039;s value in getting up-to-date information from the web via Adobe&#039;s start page feature: if we find a severe security error in the application (god forbid) and we wanted to inform you about a related update, the start page could serve as the vehicle to transport this information. 

I&#039;m sorry to hear about your troubles with a past Reader update. You have my email address now, should you have problems in the future, please don&#039;t hesitate to contact me. 

@Mike: Thanks for your kind words!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James: I&#8217;m with you, James. I&#8217;m equally upset about the situation and I want to make sure that we do everything to regain your and others confidence that we do the Right Thing &#8482;. As mentioned earlier on, I hate to spied upon as much as everybody else. However, in this case I would not call it spying, but providing up-to-date information with negative side-effects. </p>
<p>There are tons of applications out there which phone-home to check whether there&#8217;s an update to the software you installed. I find this valuable at times and annoying if it is not done right. My Logitech software telling me &#8220;There&#8217;s an update&#8221; without telling me what the update is about, falls into the annoying category. Some other software showing me the release notes for all the versions between my installed version and the current version and whether those updates are security-related or not, falls into the valuable category. </p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s value in getting up-to-date information from the web via Adobe&#8217;s start page feature: if we find a severe security error in the application (god forbid) and we wanted to inform you about a related update, the start page could serve as the vehicle to transport this information. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear about your troubles with a past Reader update. You have my email address now, should you have problems in the future, please don&#8217;t hesitate to contact me. </p>
<p>@Mike: Thanks for your kind words!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tobias, thanks for a well researched and clearly explained piece.

I note that Dan was keen for you to correct your (unintentional) mistake.

I wonder if he has considered that if he himself had hestitated to write his first article until he had put some time and effort into researching the facts, he would hot have caused unnecessary concern and thereby wasted many people&#039;s time.

One of the unfortunate aspects of easy access to the internet is the way in which &#039;writers&#039; anxiously try to fill their blogs/whatever with little more than idle gossip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobias, thanks for a well researched and clearly explained piece.</p>
<p>I note that Dan was keen for you to correct your (unintentional) mistake.</p>
<p>I wonder if he has considered that if he himself had hestitated to write his first article until he had put some time and effort into researching the facts, he would hot have caused unnecessary concern and thereby wasted many people&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>One of the unfortunate aspects of easy access to the internet is the way in which &#8216;writers&#8217; anxiously try to fill their blogs/whatever with little more than idle gossip.</p>
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